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Learn more about bidirectional Unicode charactersOriginal file line number Diff line number Diff line change @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ GN, so we posted some coverage yesterday with some concerns about data accuracy ethics and responsibilities of Linus Media Group GN, not going to recap all that here you should check that video out before proceeding its necessary context GN, Linus hastily posted a statement about three and a half hours after our video went live GN, the video raised concerns again about an incredibly large amount of testing and act accuracy issues GN, alongside what we believe to be unethical actions and just issues with responsibility as a large Outlet in general GN, Linus's statement it is an unhinged Unapologetic rant where he shirks responsibility and blames others GN, he tries to play weird semantic games like saying GN, quote Linus, wedidn't sell the product we auctioned it GN, or misrepresent the timeline for when he contacted Billet Labs GN, he triples down on Billet labs and says GN, quote Linus, I still disagree that the Billet Labs video is an accuracy issue it's more like I just read the room wrong GN, that doesn't even make any sense GN, it's not the job of a reviewer to read the room and tell the room what it wants to hear GN, that is called a Luke, sycophant Linus, sycophant is a is a perfect word to describe it GN, he also said GN, quote Linus, we could have retested it with perfect accuracy Linus, but to do so properly accounting for which cases it could be installed in (none) Linus, in which radiators it would be plumbed with (again mystery) would have been impossible Linus, and also didn't affect the conclusion of the video or so I thought GN, to be clear here the random caps lock is not us that's the original emphasis GN, I mean we could have retested it with perfect accuracy GN, but to do so would have been impossible is nonsense GN, and it's very difficult to to engage with nonsense GN, I don't know what that means GN, and it completely ignores the enormous video breaking errors with cooler CPU and GPU testing results and processes GN, that sometimes wildly misrepresent the product stack GN, other than the usual platitudes if we wear imperfection on our sleeves in the interest of ensuring GN, that we stay accountable to you without explaining how it happened or how they'll fix it GN, look we're going to talk about this GN, today but we're not going to drag this out and make a whole new Standalone video about this response GN, because they haven't added anything of substance the response GN, is immature GN, it's blaming others and it's irresponsible to the community they've built GN, but we are going to talk about some of the issues in this statement nonetheless and then we're moving on Transitions, GN, let's start with Billet this is where the story is getting a little bit twisted GN, we saw some comments about this confirming our concerns that people would lose track of the actual timeline GN, first of all we're not going to argue the semantics about an item being sold against the will of account company versus being auctioned GN, and being for charity which we already said doesn't make that better GN, it makes it worse because now you're roping in an innocent GN, third party into a very awkward situation that can potentially make them look bad by proxy GN, and secondly this is actually what we said Transitions, GN, the first time they agreed to send it back was June 30th GN, at LTX the Linus Media Group put the one-of-a-kind water block up for auction at its extra live auction event GN, more seriously Linus's statement which reads GN, quote Linus, we have already agreed to compensate Bill labs for the cost of their prototype GN, uses specific language to imply that this was agreed upon prior to our video launching Gn, following this forum post from Linus we reached out to Billet Labs with GN, when we'd already had contact and we asked them the following GN, we said Linus's comment doesn't expressly say it but it seems to imply that this agreement was made previously GN, Billet lab said no GN, absolutely not no no no GN, the only mention of any money to do with the Prototype was our response to that them after they said they'd auctioned it GN, and we basically said you know that was an expensive prototype they didn't want us to share the exact dollar amount GN, Billet continued to explain their email they said GN, quote Billet,I said Billet, do you plan to reimburse us for this Billet, and we heard nothing we didn't get a response until your video GN, and Bill thanked us for it GN, we asked Billet when I had received that email from Linus GN, and they noted it arrived about two to three hours after we published our video GN, which would have been around the same time that Linus posted the comments on the forums GN, so he wrote that email and he posted and then said they've already come to an agreement GN, but at the time he posted it bill it hadn't responded to the email and just for the record GN, we have the timeline of events so I vetted them GN, and Linus Media Group did in fact agree to send the block back on June 30th GN, and they agreed again later and then they followed up to tell Billet that they would have a tracking number soon GN, and then it was last seen at the the auction at LTX GN, so today was the first time that Billet had Direct contact with Linus a comment from Linus lower in the Forum reads this GN, quote Linus, Billet sent us a GN, quote Linus, I don't know or care how they arrived at the value if they're good Linus, I'm good GN, we asked them about this and Billa emphasized to us GN, that it had not sent Linus Media Group a quote it noted that it had expressed a possible value of the block GN, and frustration before our video went up before this conversation began after they learned that it had been auctioned previously GN, but that this wasn't any kind of quote or invoice GN, we asked Bill if it had anything further to share and it said he's emailed us GN, we haven't emailed back yet at the time of writing GN, we thank the community for the support We Stand by everything we've said publicly GN, Billet noted that they intend to email Linus back prior to sharing any further details GN, and they also spent a few minutes to express very sincere gratitude to the community GN, and as they don't have quite as much of a platform GN, I'm just conveying that to you they were extremely grateful to the support that they've received from you all GN, and I do think that they felt some closure on their side Transitions, GN, now we get into something important as far as linuses believe that we should have reached out to him first GN, and that not doing so somehow makes the 44 minutes of reporting any less valid Gn, and considering the fact that he said there would have been valuable contacts such as GN, quote Linus, the fact that while we haven't sent payment yet we've already agreed to compensate Bill Labs Linus, with the cost of their prototype GN, which again Linus emailed Billet after the video GN, and this Billet situation is exactly why this sentence structure makes it appear as if Billet already agreed to some kind of resolution before the video GN, that's why it's our responsibility when doing proper reporting to ensure that the truth gets to viewers GN, and that it's not misrepresented by a manufacturer GN, we don't have to reach out to corporations when we think there's a patterned Behavior GN, or that there may be a significant chance that they try to cover things up GN, or prepare a pre-written bonds that could twist The Narrative GN, and in this case manipulate the audience GN, Linus willfully ignoring our valid criticisms of data accuracy and some of the ethical concerns GN, while then trying to manipulate the audience into viewing him as the victim not just LMG GN, this was very bizarre this is why we don't reach out every time GN, I want to be very clear we don't have to reach out to corporations prior to reporting on them period GN, for big corporations we don't reach out if the issue already harms consumers GN, or if their view is irrelevant the Walmart PC the Alienware PC GN, any number of products we buy but we don't need to reach out because the damage is being done actively GN, and we don't need Linus's input or permission to make that video GN, LMG's videos are already affecting millions of consumers GN, and they have objective errors that we covered objectively and they involved serious ethical concerns which we raised GN, and rather than addressing those he is choosing to try and distract viewers by whining about us not allowing him to comment first GN, and they've already commented anyway GN, they did it in all of these various WANshows we know what their comment is we know what they think GN, and when there's an objective factual issue we don't need to reach out GN, the risk is to the consumer and these aren't unreleased products they are public videos with a lot of views GN, and I am exceptionally disappointed in this response GN, I am baffled that this was the path chosen GN, I don't know GN, I don't know how to respond to the circular deflecting nonsense GN, as for the rest of the sort of Meandering diatribe GN, it's just bizarre GN, I am genuinely just disappointed by this GN, here's one such GN, quote LTT STUFF, I'm sorry I got the community's priorities mixed up on this one LTT STUFF, and that we didn't show the Billet in the best light Our intention wasn't to hurt anyone LTT STUFF,we wanted no one to buy it because it's an egregious waste of money no matter what temps it runs at GN, another quote